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Has anyone beaten the level 8 computer

#1

Hello, I am a chess player who has recently started exploring other board games. I started playing draughts a little over a week ago, and I have been practicing against the computer. I have been working my way up from level one and I have recently beaten the level 4 computer.
It is my understanding that with perfect play, the standard variant should always be drawn. This why I wanted to ask if anybody has ever beaten a high level computer which should be able to avoid all possible mistakes. I will share one of my recent games against the level 4 bot, but I would like to continue analyzing high level games. I am currently very limited in my understanding of different openings, and I am trying to wrap my mind around the general principles that should be followed in this game.
In this game I played with black, and the computer says that I played well with no serious mistakes.

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#4

@kalnap Nice computer. I tried playing against it, but the game ended in a draw. Each side had one king and one man. The remaining men were stuck in a permanent standoff, leaving the two kings nothing to do but go back and forth.

#5

@trothan that program is beatable, and once you figure out its weaknesses, you will be able to win lvl 5 Scan. As well. you might try 10x8 board (adjust size), where 3 kings always win against 1 king: files.fm/u/re7s98p5jx (pdf file, 176k)

#9

I am looking for club players in my club (btbdraughts.com.au/), but I am in Melbourne Australia.
You never know someone here is from my area ...

#11

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#12

Well Koffiekan did it , but seeing that if we let the computer think for about 1 second he sees the mistake he did , I'm assuming that he was programmed to play instantly . Other people have beaten him in very fast game . Also I don't want to say he is unbeatable , there is some line where his estimations change too much , or he take a while to see it (or just don't see) .
Scan when not at max level is strangely programmed , he plays as strong than max level then sometimes does a suboptimal move , I guess the less level he has the more suboptimal he does. Dam 2.2 , Dragon or such are smoother.

there is some online course like the one made by Tjallin Goedemoed to get an idea about the strategy of the game (you cans search it , it's free and in english).
Tactics is what hold back people at first ( difficult to make a good strategy when you throw it out the windows by a combination)
If you want to have a look at strategy at higher level , i'll recommend damkunst or gantwarg.net (not beginner friendly , and is more in line with strategic thinking of Gantwarg , so it's biased) . Having a look at the beauty of the game kind of help to keep motivated.

For begining theory, I'll recommend you don't bother with it mostly , in chess it is for half a point or more usually , because the game is less stable than draught , in draught this would be about 0.2 negligeable at first, and get of course important but way later in elo rating than in chess (also very hard to find opening stuff on the internet)

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