Интересно кто нибудь умеет и в шашки и шахматы играть?
Chess or Draughts
Although it is off-topic, here you might see how do I play Bird opening in chess:
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1. f4 Nc6 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. d3 d5 4. g3 g6 5. Bg2 Bg7 6. O-O O-O 7. Re1 Re8 8. e4 dxe4 9. dxe4 Qxd1 10. Rxd1 Rd8 11. Rxd8+ Nxd8 12. e5 Nd5 13. c4 Nb4 14. Na3 f6 15. Bd2 Nd3 16. Bc3 Bg4 17. Rd1 Nc5 18. exf6 Bxf6 19. Bxf6 exf6 20. h3 Bf5 21. Nd4 Be4 22. b4 Bxg2 23. Kxg2 Ne4 24. Nab5 Nc6 25. Nxc6 bxc6 26. Nxc7 Rc8 27. Na6 f5 28. Rd7 Nc3 29. a3 Re8 30. Kf3 Re2 31. Rd3 Rc2 32. c5 Nd5 33. b5 Nf6 34. b6 axb6 35. cxb6 Rb2 36. Nb4 c5 37. b7 cxb4 38. b8=Q+ Kg7 39. axb4 Kh6 40. Qf8+ Kh5 41. Qxf6 1-0
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As a law, when playing chess, the draughts players excel in rook endgames, because it requires similar approach and calculation techniques, which they are used to apply in draughts.
I think chess is better
@LeelaKnightsOdds Only retarded people think that chess is better. Chess is completely solved game, where any human being has no chances to win or even to draw against any 3000+ ELO chess engine, including Stockfish. In comparison, you can have real life draughts ELO 1900 and still make a draw against the most advanced draughts engine. It is why draughts is more friendly game than chess, because draughts matches perfect balance between complexity level and capacity of human mind.
You don't know Magnus , Carlsen He can beat 3000+ chess robot but sometimes draw or loss , chess is a calculation game. And chess variants better than draughts.
And draughts has only king/queen and checkers
Chess is better than draughts. We can learn tactics, we can improve our skills ,We can learn openings , we can watch Chess studies in youtube
@LeelaKnightsOdds
> You don't know Magnus , Carlsen
I know this drunkard.
> He can beat 3000+ chess robot but sometimes draw or loss
He can't win or draw under proper time control.
> chess is a calculation game
DRAUGHTS require more calculation than chess, particularly, at the latest phase of middle game. The endgames of draughts are far more complicated than those of chess. Just for comparison purposes, you can compare the size of tablebases which an engine requires.
> And chess variants better than draughts.
They prove that chess players aren't satisfied with BOARD and PIECE LIMITATIONS. Any modification forces chess player to learn the game from scratch, while you can play draughts on almost any size of board with different rules.
>And draughts has only king/queen and checkers
Not true. While the majority of draughts variants use 2 kinds of pieces, there are some variants where extra kind of pieces are involved.
Examples: Italian Damone dagazproject.github.io/checkers/italian-damone.htm ; Altai Shatra dagazproject.github.io/checkers/altai-shatra.htm ; Tribunes dagazproject.github.io/checkers/tribunes.htm
>Chess is better than draughts.
Erratic statement from chess addict.
>We can learn tactics,
So we do in draughts.
>we can improve our skills
So we do in draughts.
>We can learn openings
So we do. English draughts / American checkers players need to know to play 150 (!) ballots in official tournaments; professional Russian , Brazilian, Pool players need to know >700 (!) ballots in official tournaments.
> we can watch Chess studies in youtube
We have smaller communities where we share our knowledge and studies. Draughts players are more friendly and more cooperative. Even if you lose a game in a tournament, in many instances your opponent will show what had to be played for a draw or for getting equal positions.
Anyone can notice the psychological climate in chess community and compare it to the psychological climate in draughts player communities. It isn't a secret that many children dislike to be engaged in chess tournaments because chess is largely prefered by toxic and aggressive people.
Windy_Valley!
Comparing checkers and chess reminds me of comparing a pen and a pencil...
Are the dimensions the same - length and diameter? The answer is yes.
Is the structure the same? The answer is yes: a body with a coloring substance inside.
Is the purpose the same? The answer is yes: to leave a trace of color on the paper.
What conclusion should we draw? Are these two objects the same and can we compare them?
Answer - no!!!
Do you get the hint?
You can compare with each other: chess, Fischer chess, Capablanca chess, hundred-cell chess, etc.
You can compare with each other: Russian checkers, Brazilian checkers, American checkers, hundred-cell checkers, etc.
@kalnap and @marahonov_dima Who are you arguing with and who do you want to prove something to? Leave the idiots alone with their conclusions.
Comparing Chess and Checkers is clearly not a great idea.
@LeelaKnightsOdds Go to Lishogi and try to prove there that Chess is better than Shogi. No? Why? Ahhhh, have you ever tried to play Shogi seriously? Once you start playing it, you will quickly realize that Chess is not even close to Shogi in terms of the required strength of the game.
So it is here. First learn to play checkers well and understand what can be compared and what cannot be compared.